Western Express Lease Purchase,,,the good and the ugly

by Lease purchase
(Nashville Tn)

Okay over the next few days I'm going to tell you about my experience with the Western Express lease purchase program. It appears to be a good program from the outside looking in. the famous of all, the read through it will tell you that the equipment is well maintained... and promise you 2500 to 3000 miles a week. they will also promise you that you will pay I think it's $700 a week and payments. a couple of things at the recruiters and do not tell you is that you are required to buy fuel at pilot and Flying J truck stops. so as an owner operator, if you're trying to save money on fuel and if your cross the street is 30 cents per gallon cheaper than the pilot or Flying J you are not allowed to fill up there. something else that they changed is the percentage they charge you for the equipment rental and it's based upon miles so one week you're a Crip equipment rental might be 30, the next week it might be 60 miles that you run. I experienced the Western Express lease purchase program and if dispatch would have giving me the miles that I was promised, it would have been an OK program and I would have stayed. even though the truck was not well maintains and after I pick it up its at the shop for a week. they gave you a 30 day warranty on the truck. so in that 30 days you need to find out what's wrong with the truck and get it fixed. so consequently you will not be making a lot of money if your trucks in the shop the first month. I found that dispatch and the people that handle the lease purchase program were very nice. overall it appears to be a pretty good company it's just that they are not serious about ensuring that the lease purchase driver gets what they were promised before they came. another thing to that you want to be aware of is that as a lease purchase driver they can hold your final check up to 45 days after you resign. if the truck is not turn back to Birmingham Alabama out with all the equipment, they will charge you I believe it's at 3 cents per mile to get the truck back there. its wing the two's CRST Malone and Western Express I think that even though CRST Malone has a higher percentage per mile rate that they charge you for repairs, it is a better program only because you are paying for the equipment plus you have the ability to pick your own load and you are not depend upon the whim of the company. that is the biggest drawback of this lease purchase program. if you don't have to make 1200 to 1500 a week, it's a good program because you will end up with a truck, assuming that they will give you miles at the end of the lease in order for you to pay off the truck. that's the best I can do for now if you have any thoughts please post them.

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Nov 15, 2016
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Walk away lease NEW
by: 34 months

I had to leave Western for a family emergency and it WAS a walk away lease. I was gone about two months and came back and they even put what I had paid on the other truck onto the balance of my new truck. Some guys can always find a boogy man in anything. eric and Dave are good guys that have a hell of a program going and I'd sit down with anyone to help them see what my last 34 months have looked like. Ownership is 2 months away from me and I am proud they gave me the opportunity.

Oct 30, 2016
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I live the fairy tale NEW
by: Anonymous

Look guys I have read all comments about western express an every one is entitled to his or her opinion but western express lease purchase program is a rip off u will never own that truck they do not have any perks you are just a advanced company driver seriously ok one have to literally beg for miles or become a trainer now you have to pay them to have that trainee in your truck,an it's a force disp.you are paying 675 a week for a truck that again u will never own only does 64mph u can't have an inverter you can't afford to take home time like I said earlier everyone entitled to his or her opinion but this is facts I was a lease purchase an David an Eric are nothing but lies an thieves an that driver think it's a walk away lease buddy read section 14 on ur contract u might think differently.

Oct 28, 2016
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Soon NEW
by: Anonymous

Well I just got financed to buy one of there 2011 trucks should be over there in 2 weeks

Oct 26, 2016
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Western lease to own NEW
by: Kenny T

Why would anyone go anywhere else? After dozens of programs I can honestly say Westerm has a great program. Mr D teaches classes on ownership and business management that no other company has ever taken the time to explain. Listen to him and ask a lot of questions about the fueling process. His is amazingly simple and made a huge difference.

Oct 13, 2016
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Great forum ! Breathe of fresh air NEW
by: JnGXpressllc

I'm am leasing on to Western Express on Monday at orientation in Nashville , I cannot wait .
'This is my second company as a owner operator ... the first one was with PTL and they took all my settlements after me running 3,025 mile weeks for them .. It was a good learning lesson though that there are horrible companies out there . I never quit having hope though that there was a perfect company out there for me and when I contacted Western Express I was enlightened by a good recruiter that had good things to tell me and now I ran upon this post here to see this .... This is a good feeling , and I thank you for posting the truth . Hopefully I meet you and everyone here out there .

J n G Xpress LLC - 🚛

Oct 11, 2016
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Western Express Trucking NEW
by: Rayle

Western is the only company giving guys a truck at dealership cost. No high price, no interest, no balloon. You can make great money with little effort just watch your fuel costs. Simple!

Sep 07, 2016
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by: Anonymous

Well i see alot of good comments about western express im glad you guys are happy about them and how they run you but when you guys wanna make so real money and unlimited miles email me Darrenharris305@gmail.com

Aug 24, 2016
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Fuel purchase NEW
by: Anonymous

You are incorrect on the fuel purchase. You can buy it any place you want. It's only the fuel card will let you purchase it at pilot or flying j.

Aug 21, 2016
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Load board NEW
by: Anonymous

So do you have a load board there? I see they say you can pick your own loads. Do they send you a list of loads to choose from

Jul 20, 2016
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Lease to Own NEW
by: Donta

Advice for new owner operators. Being an OO means dedication and drive. You can not expect for anyone to run your business like you run your business. I run a good business and expect a lot from myself. If you are hungry this is the place.

BIG different between lease purchase and lease to own at Western. Most Lease purchase programs have huge ballon payments. Western has a Lease to Own program with NO ballon payment or payoff amount. At the end you own it out. I seen a lot of lease purchase programs that are not bad just not for me cause I plan to own this truck in another 11 months. Good place, good people, my business.

Jul 17, 2016
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New Driver NEW
by: Memphis

I only have three months experience im looking to join Western should i go company or lease im currently leasing with Trans Am and they are terrible

Jun 22, 2016
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Why? NEW
by: Kenneth

Why Western is the question I keep getting on several blogs I like. I chose Western because they have a walk away lease to own program that you actually own. You choose all of your loads, you decide where and when to go home and when to work. Most companies that promote Lease programs are just rentals and you never own it. At Western they are selling me a truck that I will own free and clear. Even when im still paying for it I can choose my own business and take it to any maintenance shop I want. Very good program, but like everything in trucking it will never be perfect everyday.

Jun 06, 2016
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Western's Great NEW
by: Albert Kin

David is a genuine real dude Eric Chrissy and everyone at Western. They treated me like family gave me everything. I'm actually mad, I had to leave due to my health issues. You can lease from them with no interest where else can you do that? Consider Western their going to stick by yourself.

May 14, 2016
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by: Anonymous

Your not a o/o are leases op because if you are then they cannot tell you we're you must spend your money only company drivers thy can tell I run with dart and I spend my money were I want to spend it I take my truck to any shop to get repairs done an it the only thing the shop must be liget not your friend are family and you must have the money in your account are come out of wallet

May 04, 2016
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Buying fuel NEW
by: Joshua mercier

Step 1 down load pilot fuel app or trucker path pro. I prefer trucker path pro.

Step 2 alway check fuel prices before you hall a load and always have an idea of fuel prices for next coming load.

Step 3 know how much fuel you got and how far you can get

100 gal tanks= 200 gal capacity
200 gal x fuel mileage of truck 6.5= 1300 miles
Fuel guage break it into 8ths
8/8 full tank=200 gal= 1300 miles
7/8 7/8 tank= 175 gal= 1137.5 miles
6/8 3/4 tank= 150 gal= 975 miles
5/8 5/8 tank= 125 gal= 813 miles
4/8 half tank=100 gal= 600 miles
3/8 3/8 tank= 75 gal= 487 miles
2/8 qtr tank= 50 gal= 325 miles
1/8 1/8 tank= 25 gal= 162 miles
0/8 empty= 500 dollar bill

Step four buy fuel when it's cheap and don't buy it when it's expensive. I'll stuff my tanks in the south when going north so I'll have enough fuel to make it back out.

Example I'm taking a load from tn to me. I know because of experience and fuel app that fuel is cheap in tn and expensive past va with va being cheap but not as cheap as tn. I'll stuff my tanks full in tn and top off at top of va. When I get to me ill have a half tank left wich will be enough to drive back down to va border. If I don't take a load back through va but a load to NY I'll make it but then I'll need fuel. On load from NY to pa I'll grab just enough fuel to make it to pa delivery always having an 8th of fuel left when I deliver.then il get a pa load to ga. In PA I'll get just enough fuel to make it to va border where I will buy enough to make it to sc where it is really cheap and stuff the tanks. Yes you try to end the pay week on empty because any fuel left in tank is spent money and no profet. But that fuel is going to profit the next week and I would rather fill up on end of pay week when i can get it cheap and have fuel than get stuck buying it at beginning of new pay week for a lot more money. My pay check mite be a little shy that week but next week when I burn the fuel and make money but don't buy fuel to haul the load I'll make it back. If your miles are high for week don't worry about being on e but if miles such then be empty.

May 04, 2016
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My experience NEW
by: Joshua mercier

I've been with Western for three years now. One of those as a lease purchase and now I'm working on my second year as a lease purchase driver. Back when I first started with Western they were the only company to hire me because of experience and where I lived in vt. I done everything with them. Started as a company driver, then a trainer, then my lady got a call and they let me be her trainer. She was my last student. I then team driver with her when she graduated. The whole entire time I was a company driver I worked my assignment off to make money and I did but. Then I went lease purchase and my work ethics paid off. As a owner opps lease purchase with my lady as a Co driver I saw close to 3000 a week. Unfortunately she's not here no more do to health issues. Miles went down but I'm still making good money and only have to work half as hard as I did as a company driver to make the same kind of cash. I never been in the red even first week out of the hole I profited. First two weeks there's no truck payment to make to give you that running start of a chanse. Listen to David and all the other successfully o/o that made it. Know what your doing from the beginning. Buy your fuel smart. If you go north fill up before you leave va regardless of what day of the week it is don't get hung up on the fuel left in tanks at end of payweek. You'll profit it next week when you burn it. Get a DM that knows that if sent into the north to get you rite back out that's where that fuel comes in handy. Now you have just enough fuel left to make it back out to the cheaper stuff. If fuel is expensive buy enough to get you to the cheaper stuff and a little more to get to the even cheaper. Also no one never said you have to use the fuel card to buy your fuel. Then when at cheaper stuff them tanks. Always look at your preplan to see if cheaper comes after you deliver current load. If so hold out for it. Save you money up get a thousand in the bank and buy your own fuel from mom and pop stores. They are the cheapest. Then when you get paid put it back to do the same again. If you buy fuel your self you only need to transfloe the receipt so they can use it to pay your ifta taxes.Tire pressure saves fuel get religious with it. Home time remember you go home you don't make money. I go home before end of pay period and come back out beginning of new pay period. If my miles such I'll cancel my home time and stay running and go home the next weekend when my miles are better higher to do so. When I started with Western I had nothing. I was homeless. Credit sacked blah blah blah. Now I own a home a brand new pickup a brand new motorcycle, have three credit cards. Your aditude, knolledge, and work ethics is what's going to make or break you not Western exp.

Mar 16, 2016
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Lease to Own? NEW
by: Tom

Western is one of the only companies I've talked to that is actually offering a lease to own, not a lease to lease or rental program. I like the plan and want to own my own truck. Everyone on here is right the guy that built it does put a plan to get her for each driver to succeed if you follow it.... He actually shows you the checks during the business management and fueling class. A very real experience to what happens next when get on the road and start building your business. For anyone considering owning a truck and building a business this is a must have program.

Feb 20, 2016
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Western Express lease NEW
by: Anonymous

Thank you David for all the information that it takes to run a business. Thank you Western for giving me the opportunity.

Feb 20, 2016
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Western express lease NEW
by: Anonymous

Thank you David

Feb 20, 2016
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Follow the lead NEW
by: Fifth wheel

The mystery of owning a business is actually pretty simple..... Miles and revenue equal money. If you take the work they give the money will follow. Western offers a program that pays all miles. David is the guy that explains a method that is unlike anything I've seen before in lease to own programs. Most don't care if you make money or not. He goes into detail about the ideas of being a business owner versus a company driver and it actually works. It's like getting a degree in business ownership. I came to western thinking that this lease would be another rental program..... I was wrong. I've had good and bad weeks but more good than bad.

My advice to new lease guys would be to learn from this guy and ask a lot of questions. Get the answers you want and understand the formula. If you don't get it ask more. It's very simple. I wish I had learned all of this years ago!

Jan 31, 2016
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Current lease contractor NEW
by: James

The toughest part about Westerns program is getting in. It's more difficult than the company side but not impossible, you just have to have a good driving record. There are some great weeks and some less than great weeks but overall average to the house was about $92,000 for my first time leasing I think I've done pretty good. I know a lot of other guys that have more experience that have made more, but this was my first and I'm pretty proud of what I've accomplished. They actually taught me how to run a business and how to manage my fuel something others said no one else will teach you.

Going into my second full year I know that should increase to $115 or $130 this year because my fueling continues to get better and more efficient. My advise to anyone considering it would be to hang in there, the first few weeks are the toughest trying to learn how everything works. Remember nothing in life worth having is simple.

Jan 20, 2016
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Need advise NEW
by: Anonymous

I as am currently waiting to see if I'm approved for this program. Any helpful advise?

Nov 21, 2015
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Diesel done simple NEW
by: Hawk Eye

2431 miles this week = $1492.00 to the house after all expenses. 2513 miles last week and take home was $1611.00 Enough said......

Let me add just one thing, when a company gives a dam about their people it shows. I been a lease driver for western since July and know that no company is perfect but this program seems to give the driver a chance to make money or move along. I appreciate the no nonsense approach to get it done, make money and quit bitching about what someone did or didn't do.

Nov 16, 2015
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Why I went Lease NEW
by: Nightly Express

DO YOUR RESEARCH!! Too many people jump into a company and never know nothing until they arrive at their doorstep.I spent weeks reading about the Lease side and it had most of the things I was searching for. One thing that jumped out in a lot of the blogs was the guy that started it was grandson of one of the oldest Owner Operator companies in America and for some reason started his own company at Western two years ago. I called him and amazingly I talked directly to him. I was sold, and 14 months later Im still happy with my choice. In a world of negative thoughts and comments I thought a positive one would be welcomed.

The positives are the pay scale is higher than any lease company I've worked for. The trucks are NOT rentals with balloon payments, they are actual PURCHASE trucks. My DM is very good at her job and keeps me moving even times of the year when freight is down.

The negatives are a lot of the trailers are older, but they are getting new ones now. The 2011 model trucks have approx. 150,000 miles of limited warranty. Orientation is okay but could be a little better.... at least its only 2 days!

All said an done I am good here and think if you want a no bull^%$& answer this is heads and tails above anywhere I've been yet. If you want to read more search for Western Express Lease Purchase, NOT just Western Express. Nightly OUT!

Oct 21, 2015
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Avoid!!!!! NEW
by: Anonymous

Avoid it for sure.
Western sucks. End of story

Oct 21, 2015
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Go or not NEW
by: Quan

Flatbed lease purchase avoid or is it a good program

Oct 07, 2015
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Lease Purchase only!!! NEW
by: Deonta

I've heard the company side has it's issues.... The Lease side is where the loads are!

Oct 07, 2015
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Joke of a company. NEW
by: Anonymous

Worked for them for 3 months last year as company driver in dry van. I had 3 dms while there. I live in NC but all 3 of them kept me running the northeast..only saw 3 loads of got me to see the south and of only one day of home(make that of just a 10 hour before had to leave and I was supposed to got home for a 3 day home time but I got stuck babysitting a Donnelly and son load out of Warsaw Indiana for half a week in the parking lot of a mail processing center due to had to wait on donnelly send correct papers and they told me they were going to pay the detention pay and not to forget to ask on it...I asked on it after let my dm know on things but i didn't get my detention/layover pay and was late on by 3 days to pick up the next load that was assigned to me) in those 3 months time. And when was time to test out after been out on my own for a about a week, got sent to the Nazareth terminal and of was kept runnin out of the Nazareth terminal to the day I left. At least they paid for my bus ticket home...a lot of companies won't do that. Overall, I don't have no complaints about the company other than what I went through. Ought to be where once your assigned a dm, your with him until the day u leave or of don't get along and need to switch.

Oct 07, 2015
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Same as you NEW
by: Cory B

Cory I have the same issues and the same communication problem. Hate that it didn't work out beyond a month since it's been a good company for me. I'm on the van side on westerns lease fleet and have a lot of runs and some that fall through also but after a few weeks it leveled out and they put me on the more expensive loads. I found out that if your on time record is good you get the good stuff. I think most company's must have customers that are less profitable and new guys get those where guys with a good record gets the better stuff. I've been on the top earners list the last four out of five months and know it works if you give it time, but it's tough to prove yourself time after time at different companies. Keep one thing in mind it takes time to make the company your with the right one and it's not always easy at first, but if you give it a chance you'll find one that works. Hope you find the right one and hang in there. David was right about the fuel I'm just glad he pushed me to stick it out. Did you call him to ask about the problem? Couldn't hurt?

Oct 07, 2015
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Really!!!!!! NEW
by: Cory B

Listen first of all, I did everything as described by McBride. The problem is not the program, The problem is the dispatchers oh wait sorry the "Driver Managers"! This is how you make money- When paid by the mile you need miles to make the money! I am in the northeast and on several occasions told the "DM" I wanted to run west and east- I was always told NO, Because I live in the northeast I would run the northeast! Even though I stayed out for 3 weeks at a time-(So much for being your own boss) Also I ran up and down I-64 most of the time which killed my Fuel costs by at-least a 1/4 more than I should have been spending. I talked to a company driver and what he said makes sense (Not right but makes sense) As a business they are looking out for their bottom line- Why send a driver for $1.05 a mile when you can send a truck and driver for $.35 a mile!? I got into it with the DM and actually got him to tell me " I wont get those kind of miles unless I am a trainer. First check- $154.00, Second check-$264, Third check-$825, Fourth check- 163.25, Fifth and final check- $1989.00 (runs I never even ran on it- Must be to make them look good)
I could never touch the 2,000 mark as far as miles because all runs were only about 400 or less ( just high enough to put me at the minimal CPM of $1.05)
I filled every Tuesday and made sure the tank was empty every Sunday and Monday. Always got fuel at the lowest priced flying J and/or Pilot en-rout. Never turned down a load. Every load had to be tarped or chained and I always make sure it is done right so figure 1-4 hours per load for securement depending on what it is. I was Always on Time.
So dont try to tell me I did something wrong. Now if you live in the west I was told that you would get all the miles because they will send you west and east. But Northeast their is no money for the OO just Western.
And by the way Communication sucks. I try to call in to talk to the DM and most of the time it takes hours and hours. Try to send a message over the Qualcom and most of the time it is not answered. This company sucks, Really it does!!! I know Business and this is not a good one. Go to orientation and everyone is Rude, You feel like a prisoner. about 25 new people shipped in per day. the recruiters lie to you to get you their. Im done with my post but if I was you especially in the northeast- Steer clear of this company if you wanna call it that!!

Oct 07, 2015
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4 months to go! NEW
by: Western Flatbed Pirate

I don't give reviews because everybody's idea on a company will be different depending on their own xperience. I've got a few months left on my lease with western. I have leased several times in the past and all failed due to miles or poor planning of equipment. I feel a true experience from start to finish should help others decide for themselves. Mr. Mac hope you don't mind but I wanted to say thank you for the opportunity and being one of the last true souls that give honest advice even when I didn't want to hear it. Thank you for making me see what could be done if I put my "money where my mouth was".! For. For nonbelievers, I will send you my check stubs AND my payoff which I already have in escrow if I decide to pull the plug tomorrow..... But I won't because I had hard times that led me here and had given up on this while damn trucking thing until now. For the first time I feel that there is someone that makes sense and gives inspiration when needed. For the real truth, it's hard, but no harder than anywhere else other than the fact that I can keep my business rolling and make a good average check above $1400 weekly. My earnings for the year will fall around $79,000 plus escrows and maintenace which will put me in a positive position of $98,200 give or take a little. Beyond that my credit had gone up nearly 104 point and a REAL SAVINGs that I can see. MR. D your plan is tough and I hated you for it then, and wanted to say thank you now! Western has been a blessing to my family and thought this was the one thing I hope you'll read one day and know it was all worth it. Learn, Save, Credit! I got it now. If anyone wants a legit plan to make a difference it's tough and takes time but at the end it does pay off. For anyone that wants to hear big checks and easy work this isn't it. I've put my time in and know if I put my faith in God, family and faith all would be ok........ It is worth it 10 times over if you earn it! I DID!
Thank you, K

Sep 01, 2015
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Western Express? NEW
by: Mr. D

I'm pretty sure that it is the same guy from CFS that left over a family thing a couple of years ago. Apparently he went to Western to build his own program. I talked to one of Western's guys the other day and apparently its already twice the size of CFS in less than a year. The Western guy said he has been at Western since the second week of the lease and likes it..... must be something to it. I was only curious because they just started taking OO's and I'm looking for somewhere to put my truck.

Sep 01, 2015
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Mr. Mac NEW
by: Who's to Blame?

I ran for Mr. Mac nearly 12 years at CFS and now 6 months at Western. Western is a solid program where I am buying my next new truck with no interest and no balloon. He's actually the reason I stayed in trucking. I come from a family of truckers and had lost faith in the whole thing when I met him. He didn't do anything ridiculous other than he listened to my concerns and my complaints and showed me a better way.

He sketched out a plan on 3 yellow sticky notes and showed me what I needed to do if I was going to better myself. I still have them today. The first one explained ownership and owning up to my own short comings. Stop blaming others for what I do (even when its easier). My business, my problems. The second explained the fueling method I still use today. I had to change the numbers slightly for today's fuel prices, but still works perfectly. The last one had 3 words LEARN, SAVE and CREDIT. He explained the importance of each and how these three words would change my life. Learn all I can about the company, Start saving money on a strict schedule, and start building my Credit through fuel purchases. I left his office that day excited but realistic that things wouldn't change...... well this many years later its easy for me to say THEY DID!

The thing I do like about Mr. Mac is he says it like it is whether I like it or not (like some of the other posts say). He's one of those guys you have to have pretty thick skin because he doesn't sugar coat his answers to your questions. He is always helpful if you are willing to do the work and put the time in. He is very strict on his belief in Winners and Losers. People make their own luck and their own success through persistence and positive thought.

If I can pass one thing he said to me that changed my way of thinking about this whole business owner mentality..... If a company says they are going to pay you so many Cent Per Mile, and so many Cents Per Mile for FSC, and they do! I have nothing to complain about... they did their part. What I do with my earnings is my problem. I don't blame others for my inability to manage money. If I over spend on fuel (MY fault), if I over advance (MY fault), if I fuel at high priced locations (MY fault). If the company is scheduled to pay me $3500.00 gross, and I take home $1575.00 its my good management that got me there..... if they are scheduled to pay me $3500.00 gross and I take home $700.00 its MY bad management that put me there. OWN UP TO IT.

Don't know what kind of experience you had at either company, but hopefully your driving and ownership qualities are better than your English. I have had good results at both companies because I made them good.... doesn't matter what sign is on the side of the trailer I'm pulling.

Aug 25, 2015
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wouldnt never drive for western express again. NEW
by: Anonymous

Mr D McBride is same guy whose family own Colonial Freight Systems...don't see much of their trucks around much..lol. What happened to them..lol. I used drove for them...I almost lost everything from their lies at Colonial.

I just love those western express ads of direct tv and tv in trucks..fuck that shit. Want to make a truck feel like home, better have apu unit, power inverter so plug in a microwave or toaster over or what ever else for cooking or whatever and a refrigerator in the truck. Cuts on idling for air and heat, and driver's stock up to cook so to stay out the truck stop except to wash clothes or shower and sit inside there to watch tv while Waitting their turn for a shower or laundry. Having these 3 on the truck will help retain drivers and of respect them and get them home for home time like they want to be and pay them like should including detention pay and the hourly pay..only then will a driver be happy to stay than to leave.

BTW: before say I'm a newbie...hate tell you but I been out here for 30 years and all the companies I've driven for, I would never go back to western express or colonial for all the money in the world. I'm happy right where I'm at for last 7 years running under my own dot and mc numbers with 4 paid in full trucks from a dealership including the 1 I drive because flease to own or flease purchase are for dumbasses who aren't bright enough to know when getting lied to and u are doing nothing but paying off the loan of the truck that isn't paid in full yet by the company. I done watched a friend of mine been driving since the 60s get taking by Prime inc on a lease purchase deal..after lease was up before could get the money to pay off the truck, Prime cancelled his contract and repo the truck and left him in middle of no where at a truck stop and gave the truck to a new sucker for lease purchase. And he Sat at the truck stop for 3 days until could catch a ride back to NC. Fuck that dam lease to own or lease purchase.


Aug 25, 2015
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by: Anonymous

I was there when they started the lease program. I did 3 months as company before they told me bye and never done nothing wrong..no accidents/incidents or tickets. Yall can have that bullshit lies over there..I get paid better and got apu unit, power inverter and fridge on my truck at PTL inc

Aug 25, 2015
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Haters gonna hate NEW
by: Rodney J

this is some bull**** on here. Mr. D says it like it is and you don't like it? Face facts he lay it out so simple you have to be not trying. I used the 6.25 on my 2011 Cascadia, now I use his 7.00 on my 2016 Volvo, I use BULK fuel all the rest of the time. Full on Tuesday and MT on Monday. I've only been with the program a minute and like it.
Don't worry i hear all you haters talking trash about it cause you don't understand it. Well get outta the program. You don't belong here. If you don't even listen then you should go work for someone that holds your hand. My first 3 weeks I made a little over $800 a week and i got a little upset and Mr D said don't be upset with me be upset with yourself for not reading the book. That night I packed my stuff to turn the truck in and came across the book he gave me and read it.
I didn't quit and now know what he ment about being upset with myself. i didn't do my part to run my business. i just drove the truck. Now I know as a business owner I can hurt my own self. I now make double what i made before and will be with Mr. D from now on.

Aug 25, 2015
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by: Joesph

I was in the third class that started this lease program at western. Monday will make 17 months with the company and I have had my share of issues that came along but still this is the best ive had it in a long time. I have been an OTR driver for almost 14 years and enjoy what i do and enjoy the people I work with. My dispatcher is Jess and she's always keeping me rolling. I am a mentor in this program and David MacBride said that there are going to be great drivers BUT bad business owners. Until I started helping him explain the system to others i did not know what he ment. To make it simple, you can run a ton of miles but not manage your fuel so you don't make much money...... that means you are wasting your time. I thought managing your fuel ment not running out.... i was wrong.

For advise to others: listen to what David has to say about the fueling. I know a lot of your don't because you ask me about the same things he explains. Use his methods and follow his handbook. He made this so simple i could follow it and teach it. He has a 3 step program for Learning, Saving and Credit Building. All three are real if you make it so. If i were him I would beat my head in to a wall for having to teach it over and over to people that don't listen. I respect him because he don't give up on anyone that don't give up on themselves.

Spend 20 minutes a nite going over your pilot ap, then plan your route. Buy fuel in bulk on Tuesday and Wednesday. Make sure your tank is empty on Monday night. simple simple simple.

Jul 28, 2015
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by: Anonymous

If Western Express Inc do great then how come today July 28, 2015 I received in the mail of a law suit against them and was to call the law firm to see if I qualify for to join in. I drove for western for 3 months and of were of they still owe me money from Sat in Charlotte nc for 3 or 4 days on a load that was suppose got detention pay and they denied it..I'll be glad to add my name into the lawsuit..lol

Jul 27, 2015
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by: Trucking Koolkid

whats the hidden truth? Well, that would be that all these "great" post about Western Express are recruiters or other "office" employees posting the about how great they are. It is only obvious, especially to someone educated and that has common sense. I gave these post 5 stars as a thank you. The post here showed me how deceptive Western Express will be to get a warm body into a truck seat. Too bad companies do not understand how much more profitable they would be if they treated drivers right, fair, like a person, with fair pay, and helped that driver succeed. But us drivers all know that most employees in a trucking company are some college brats that have never been in a truck and try selling truck jobs like its Kirby Vacuums.



Jul 03, 2015
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by: Anonymous

The best lease purchase program out there is kllm hands down you don't know now you know. look them up and see

Jul 03, 2015
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by: Anonymous

The best lease purchase program out there is kllm hands down you don't know now you know. look them up and see

May 12, 2015
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by: Anonymous

So ive been in the lease now going on three months. David is a very nice guy and does break it all down for you very easly. There have been no hidden fees they dont try and sneak money away from you here and there like others do. Now my truck on the other hand has been a complete headache. Its been in the shop 3 times for def and aftertreatment problems but ill tell you this. Eric morrison and david mcbride have your back 100%. They have really helped me out when the truck has been down. My dm is Ken and the longest ive set waiting on my next load was 2 hours but thats because i refused my first load and he had to get me something else. Im not getting rich but ive only had 1 settlement less then 1000 dollars and that was on a week the truck was in the shop and i went home that weekend. Consistently get 2200 to 2800 miles per week. Get paid same rate loaded or mt less fuel surcharge on mt. My only complaint is the truck and Eric is working on getting me another one as we speak. No im not a recruiter my current truck number is 1073. If you see me on the road come say hi ill be glad to answer any questions you have.

May 04, 2015
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by: Anonymous

If its si great....why is the turnover 150 percent....I have no doubt that a few guys do well for whatever reason ...but to the last dricer or recruiter that wrote here seems to forget that Since I left western....i landed at a company that pays 90 percent of the load and in fact I ran a western express broketed load that paid 2k to the truck on 1200 miles...lol
So nnow i am making between $2-$3 k per week...no bs here.

May 04, 2015
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by: Richard

I think Ronald said it BEST!! I've done this for 7 years as an owner op and 3 as a company driver. I've survived some of the worst companies out here and still manage to come out better than when I arrived there through luck and prayer. I think the key to making money is pretty simple.... run miles and watch your fuel. If you cant do that, you cant make money at this game. I read all these sad, sad stories online about losing everything no matter which company they go to. The key to your success is even simpler.... GET OUT OF TRUCKING!! My dispatcher Jess is one of the best I've ever had because she makes me run like a mother hen. I have been lied to by every dispatcher I've ever had until now which I like cause she says it like it is whether I like it or not and I respect that more than telling me what I want to hear. I am glad that I came here and I have been doing very well. If the good Lord allows I will be here the last few years of my career. Hope all my OTR brothers good success and hope you all find a good company to call home.

RC

Apr 30, 2015
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by: Lead Footed Hillbilly

I started at Western Express as a company driver a couple years ago and stayed until they started their lease to own program about 11 months ago. I was pretty ok with the company and thought this would probably be a way to make better money. I met with this David guy that started the program and he explained what was expected from me and I told him what I expected in return. Wasn't sure how to take him at first, but like everyone else on here I became a quick study and found out that with some time patience and planning it was just like he said. I take my 6.25 method (which I changed to 6.5) and use it daily. I found that if I take his settlement recap and fill out thr trip sheets with each load I can determine within a couple of dollars how much each load pays and whether its a good choice for me or not. my dad was an owner operator years ago before he passed and I was always wanting to own my own but afraid of the difficulty to do it (and lack of down payment). Im about 14 months away from owning this thing with 265,000 miles on it today, so about 385 to 400 in another year and a half. Not too bad!

My advise is pretty simple if you want to work and can get your lazy rear in the morning this is a pretty good company. The guy over it teaches everything you need you just have to learn the system.

Apr 11, 2015
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by: Steve from Virginia

it cracks me up hearing the comments on here by obvious recruiters....the turnover ratio at WE is just as high as any of the other bs lease purchase companies out there....lol

Apr 11, 2015
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David macbride lease cordinator western express NEW
by: ronald singer

He really did change my life and I thank him as well. The lease isn't for everyone, but if u like 2 work driving a truck and want 2 own 1 i think it is 4 u. No balloon at the end. Consistent freight. They keep u running. Imagine making 2k a week if u run 3k miles. I'm not saying your going 2 do that every week. But you'll make at least 1200 to 1500 if u want 2 work. Now imagine if your a trainer leasing getting 4500 to 6000 miles a week. What's your money going to look like. IL let u know. Thank u david. I can pay my truck off early if I want. Oh yeah they pay your fuel taxes for u. If you fail this lease your a pussy in my opinion.

Apr 11, 2015
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by: ronald singer

Everybody's experience is different with the lease here. There's some people $1300 is there lowest settlement 4 the week. Some people it's there highest. My start out was rocky. I stuck with it. It depends on your dispatcher. Whether there going 2 run u or not. Mine sat me at first until I called the vp of the lease. He got his ass in gear. I make good money now. They just started a new program where we can train with the lease. There's 1 guy who's out there doing it. Last week was his 1st settlement. He made 3k 4 the week. Let's see how this goes I start training students and evaluate in 2 days. If u can pull 2k with with 3000 mi. Imagine the possibilities. Will repost

Apr 11, 2015
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hey again NEW
by: Anonymous

Just wanted to update everyone on my career.....I took a company job with a small Michigan van company. I drove for them for about 6 months then I asked the owner if he had any trucks for sale. He sold me an 06 Freightliner for $26k....ill have it paid off next year. I average about $2200-2900 a week after all of my expenses. No bs...I can prove this via bank statements. I drove for these big companies and I don't miss the drama, the gate passes and the bs escrow accounts, ...true David is a swell guy. But the money was not as promised....

Apr 10, 2015
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David MacBride NEW
by: James

I have tried leases with several companies and none have even been close to this. I was afraid of another rental program or trucks you never own, and this has been just the opposite. I know he'll probably read this, but I want to say thank you David Macbride for everything! I did a lot of research on this guy and he is the real deal. His family were truckers and his whole life has been based on being an advocate for truckers like me that just want a chance. He tells a lot of stories and tons of information I never got anywhere else. I'm now 6 months into my lease and making great money and found a FULL TIME CAREER Mr. D, not a PART TIME JOB!! maybe too much coolaid, but I'm a believer in this guy and proof that what he does works. Thank you Mr D!

Feb 08, 2015
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by: RBT

I started with western the second week it was going and now nine months later still going strong. There have been some dips early on, but now a 1000% improvement from the first couple months. I started with a Cascadia and turned it in for a international about a month ago because it comes with a 200,000 mile warranty lower payments and earlier payoff. I also got my first months of payments moved to the international.. Unheard of in this industry! Currently I have a balance of about $27k when deducting my escrow for early payoff I have about 9 or 10 months left. So all in all about 20 months to pay off this truck. I'll let you know when it happens.
For the record western isn't perfect but they have been good to me.

Feb 08, 2015
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Pilot and EFS NEW
by: James

The thing the other guy said was right. You call buy fuel anywhere you want and in some ceases it is much cheaper at a non pilot or flying j. I either ask for an advance for cash or pay for it out with my Dicover card for an extra cash discount. The key is to plan ahead, I use the Pilot app on my phone like David said to do and it's saving me 2 to $250 per week just planning my route. I've seen a lot of guys out here trying to say its westerns fault when really it's there own when they don't even take ownership of there own business. Owning this truck was my decision . I have to make good decisions to keep my business above water. Planning fuel and time management is my business and obviously I'm pretty good maybe not the best but I make good money here.

The sheets he gives you in contracts to plan your trip use them. One of the best tools I've got to plan my trip and understand my take home.

Feb 08, 2015
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by: Henry

This is like a www argument taking place! I didn't mean to create issues I just wanted to share my experience. Clear the air I have no felony, no DUI and good driving record. I am not a last chance driver with bad stuff behind me. I came to western because I drove for David at a previous company he don't know it but I remember him. He was actually the reason I came to western because he always stood behind what he said and made things right. Now at western I'm seeing the same thing, I have done well and not by bribing dispatchers but by being polite and on time. Trailers are some time an issue, but all in all I still easily get 2500 miles on a bad week and my highwas. 3800. My lowest check was around $550 the week after Xmas my highest was about $2450 the week before Xmas.
To many people trash company's because it don't work out for them. I have failed in the past because it was my fault. At western I am winning because I am doing it right.

Feb 08, 2015
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by: Anonymous

I made very first comment on this topic page. There was another driver in my town that also had drove for western. I talked to him. Found out he had left them 2 weeks ago cause of got tired of their b.s lies. He got tired of stuck runnin the northeast region more than any where and tired of low miles and not home when was promised or of he was stayin out for 4 weeks or more and got only 2 days off...rule of things is was told get 1 day off for every week out, so he supposed got 4 days off. Never happened. He is now driving for a trucking company that is based out of our hometown and is getting everything that was promised. The company I went to 5 days after got terminated on july 31, 2014, I make better and get hometime like promised. Sometimes im routed to home during the week for a day off or for to do my 10 hours or more off depending on my load and where its going. BTW...any of yall ever been to that hell hole poor excuse of a terminal in Nazareth, PA? Only thing nice about that place was the guy that did the cleaning there. Funny of how I live in NC and Western kept me based out of that terminal. I met a few nice ppl while drove for them and alot more stuck up/suck up aholes. I went through 3 DMs in the 3 months and of had loads where I got stuck either load/unload or while drivin to find a park spot so to do my 10 hours from ran out of hours of drivin before got to or after leaving shipper/consingee. Atleast some of the places of let stayed enough to let do the 10 hours. Others of made leave. Atleast I aint got that problem no more. Wish yall poor souls the best there. Western not but a company for starter or 2nd chances or for ppl who got felonies that wont never get go anywhere else but stuck there. Btw also..the day after my orientation, they started a new one, met a new guy that was of a convicted felon of manslaughter. I just love there CSA scores too..its why they try to hire or try retain the better drivers for and been buyin or leasing newer equipment. If had to do all over again I would have gone to PTL instead of western.

Feb 08, 2015
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by: Tommy

Oh by the way. I did get paid,it took a while, but I got paid. I later spoke to a nice guy. Somewhere up the food chain ..he offered to apply my truck payments I had already paid towards a different truck If i would come back. A great offer but dispatch had already burned me with low miles though, didnt trust dispatch. I think the company drivers are getting the miles. Not sure, but it wasn't me. I was never late either, anyway, good luck if you go there. Wish you all the best, i mean it.
If you make it, and actually pay off a truck, email me at wingateta@gmail.com
Thanks.

Feb 08, 2015
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by: Tommy

Ya I agree with u man. The recruiter told me I would make $1700 per week, the craigslist ad even said the same thing. I copied and saved it on my computer, the other comments are right too about David, he is a nice guy abd I believe he has a good heart. My dispatch sucked so I left. I did not make what they promised so I left, and oh By the way, I was never home hardly. Im disappointed cus I was hoping it was real. I drove the truck to Nashville and left. I really was sad, hoping to find a home.

Feb 08, 2015
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now now :) NEW
by: Anonymous

Really? The fuel thing is simple. Just take out the cash...thats bull shit and u know it. Western Express has a bs deal wth Pikots...these companies are getting between .60-.80 cent a gal discount thats why they are forcing the poor drivers to go to Pilots and Flying J. They got ripped off by Pilot and Flying J, now their ripping ogf the drivers. Plus, they have a nice weight room for the "important" employees of Western Express but not the low life drivers, they give u shitty food during their boring orientation also. The last three comments were company recruiters and kiss assses. Lol. $1400-$1800 per weweek. Who did u blow to get the miles if thats true?

Feb 07, 2015
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by: Tracy

It looks like everyone in my group is on the web today. I can't say enough good about this program. It's the first program out of 6 that as actually did what they said they were going to. I make money and get home. What else is there. If the guy that runs this thing reads this thank you for all your help and for making a real program that really puts the driver first.

Feb 07, 2015
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Western Express Program review NEW
by: James

Western Express has had mixed reviews but the lease program is top notch. I found my home and have ben pulling for them almost 8 months now and don't care if I ever hear from another recruiter. Henry was right, David is a third generation lease guy that knows how to make you money if You just take the time to listen. He has made me a believer? by showing me that someone with a suit actually gives a damn.

My advice, if he speaks, take notes.

Feb 07, 2015
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Also western lease NEW
by: Anonymous

I have had good luck also after 4 months and think the lease is one of the best things they have ever done at that company. I run 2500 or more miles per week, home most weekend and take home around $1400 per week. I thought I would share a good thing when I see it. Thanks Henry for the support and for helping me the other night with tarps.
Billy

Feb 07, 2015
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by: Henry

After 9 months with the lease program I can say that I am completely satisfied with it and my earnings. I odd not come here thinking I would get rich, but I will say that this is the most I have ever made in trucking. My dispatcher Jessica is amazing and she cares that I make money and get home regularly. She is my second dispatcher and have had very good luck with her. The fuel thing is simple, if I use their EFS card it only works at pilot and flying j. But in places with cheaper fuel, I just use cash, cause they don't make me use pilot, they just only have an account there if I use their card.
The trucks are all 2011 model, so a little wear but over all I've had very good luck with mine and they do have warranty still remaining, and some with as much as 200,000 ,miles from purchase date. I've been with other programs before but this is the first one that doesn't lease their truck and just lease it to you for profit. I met David the head of the program several times and he always takes my calls, even if he's busy. He actually cares about all the guys that try hard and bends over backwards to help anyway he can. The only guys I haven't seen make it in this program are the ones that don't take it seriously, often just riding around not caring about fuel cost or stay home too much.
On an a frame week I take home anywhere from $1300 to $1800 depending if I go home that weekend or not. My truck payment is approx $725 per week and I will own it out right in 15 more months! That's the best part. I even have an early pay off option to ensure that I own it.
Honestly the only bad thing I have to say about the program is that I did not do it sooner. I was hold out from all the negative press western had on the company side, but the guy running this program has been honest and direct about what to expect and how to make money. I call him weekly for updates about my driving and fuel advise. He has been the best mentor I've ever had even had don 4 leases in the past.... He comes from a lease background and knows his stuff, and easy to talk to. I guess I look at it this way, when the VP gives you his cell phone number and says call.... I am going to call and get my answers from the source. Great guy. Great company, and great program! I will keep you updated if things change.
Henry

Sep 18, 2014
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hi NEW
by: Anonymous

I know of western express. I drove for 3 mnths before i got let go. During those 3 months i seen a many as 10 drivers in a weeks time leave after their 9 mothhs to a year is up. Some stay longer because of they know they cant be able get a better paying truck driving job anywhere because of driving record or criminal past. I have met a few that was doing tge lease purchase at tine i was with them. They were of paying $375 to $450 a week. Sum were paying higher payments. The other stuff like tags and insurance, u pay it urself or of use tge company of take it out ur settlement chech and of same goes for fuel...u pay it iut of ur pocket or use efs fuel card b company and tgey deduct the fuel back out of ur settlement.

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